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Student arrested for assault on Knoll

Preaching turns violent on KUC Knoll

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Published: Tuesday, October 27, 2009

Updated: Thursday, October 29, 2009

 Preacher Riot

photo by Brandon Cloud, staff photographer

John McGlone of PinPoint of PinPoint Evangelism lies on the sidewalk after falling from a concrete ledge.

Updated 7:46 p.m., Oct. 27

For footage of this incident's aftermath, visit www.youtube.com/watch.

An afternoon of street preaching on the Keathley University Center Knoll led to the arrest of a student after a preacher fell off a concrete wall to the sidewalk, said Lieutenant Jim Fanguy of the MTSU Police Department.

MTSU police arrested Michaela Morales, a junior social work major, on suspicion of assault after preacher John McGlone fell Tuesday. Morales was taken to the Rutherford County Sherriff’s Office for processing.

“Based on witnesses and cell phone video of which we were made aware, we felt we had probable cause for the arrest,” Fanguy said.

Fanguy said Morales apparently pushed McGlone from the ledge where he talked to a crowd of about 200 around 2:45 p.m.

Students, including Morales, began crowding the ledge on which McGlone was standing. After Morales shouted, “Take your hands off my breasts,” McGlone fell to the ground.

Eyewitness accounts vary from Morales defending herself to McGlone being forcibly pushed by Morales from the crowded ledge, which was congested by protesters shouting at McGlone.

The official police report has yet to be released.

Bond for Morales was set at $2,500. Morales posted later that night.

At approximately 11 a.m., three men began preaching to students and passers-by, wearing shirts that read “Trust Jesus,” and “Jesus hates sin.” The men repeatedly told several members of the crowd that they were going to hell - specifically homosexuals, fornicators, God-haters, immodest women, drunks and the greedy.

Students began protesting the speakers and shouting down the men, eventually leading to the altercation at approximately 2:45 p.m. between McGlone and Morales.

McGlone fell from the cement outcropping after a brief struggle with Morales, at which point some students helped the man while others laughed. Shortly thereafter, several squad cars pulled up and officers dispersed the crowd.

McGlone lay on the sidewalk for a few moments, and soon after, medical units responded and assessed his injuries.

“I forgive her,” McGlone said as he walked away from the scene with police.

Immediately after the incident, Morales said, “Carry me,” to Officer Derrick Wharton, though she wouldn’t follow him for questioning initially. Officer Misty White led Morales to a squad car. Police spoke with Morales, frisked her and took her to the police station for further questioning.

McGlone and Kerrigan Skelly are members of PinPoint Evangelism, an organization based in central Kentucky. The third preacher present, Tracy Bays, is not a member of PinPoint Evangelism, but does accompany McGlone and Skelly to campuses.

All of the men had a permit for five hours of time at the Knoll, but students began yelling at the men soon after they began speaking to the crowds. The three men left before their time had expired.

 

 

Comments

74 comments
Andy
Tue Nov 3 2009 22:42
"One man was wearing a "Trust Jesus" T-shirt. How could anyone trust this "Jesus" when the men spent their entire time attacking and screaming obscenities to the students? What was the purpose of this free speech extravaganza? Why were they allowed on campus to put our students at risk and ultimately, why should this young girl have her life ruined because he was offensive and accosted her (doesn't hate speech) count as an attack? If all of this is legal, we need to change some laws. "

I keep on hearing how these men were "screaming obscenities" at the students, but I have watched several videos,
some made by the preachers and some by students on MTSU and other campuses. Not once did any of the preachers make a hateful remark against any students.

All these young people with their camera/video phones
and no one thought to take a picture? a video?

Let’s see the proof, post a photo on photobucket.
Put a video on youtube. Do that and I will agree 100% that these preachers were way out of line and shouldn't be allowed to be on campus.

You can’t because you’re lying. You’re willing to slander and present false testimony against these men to
put you and you’re friend in a better light.

Just like the woman was lying when she said that guy copped a feel
in front of hundreds of angry students, get real. How stupid do you have to
be to believe that. There are witnesses that state she was invading his personal space and he was using his elbow to keep her back.
What a P.O.S. does she have to be to cry sexual assault to cover her butt?
Typical feminist.

I don’t like these type of preachers either, but I detest liar and hypocrites.

They were quoting scripture, nothing more, nothing less & you want to classified that as hate speech, because you’re closed minded bigots.

offbeat
Tue Nov 3 2009 18:26
USA is the third country that I studied in so far (one was a Muslim country) and it is the first time that I have seen something like this. Beliefs of individuals should not be questioned no matter what, especially in a university, where is supposed to be place to discuss science. I disagree with the fact that students should ignore the harassment and keep walking, I believe talking down on someone just because of his/her beliefs in public is not acceptable. This is what happens when you allow that.
Lindsey
Mon Nov 2 2009 12:50
I was not there to witness this whole thing but it sounds like everyone is playing the blame game. The girl (it sounds like) was just trying to cause commotion because she didn't like what was being said. The preacher was spreading the "word" of what he believes. Both were wrong in their actions but in different ways. Claiming he was touching her inappropriately, and causing a scene was wrong on her part, as was shoving him down some steps. Shoving the word of "God" down someone's throat is wrong however too. It's not the way to lead people to Him. I will say however, that if you don't like what's being said, then you have some options: Walk away OR defend your beliefs and challenge theirs. And in both of this scenarios, an altercation like this would probably not have happened. As a Christian, I'm so sad to see that this is the reason people turn away from God. Not all Christians condemn other Christians and non-Christians to Hell... and I think it's really sad that this is how non-Christians will view Christians because of some of these over-the-top people making wild statements like "You're going to Hell for what you wear"... I don't believe the way to winning people over to Christ is to insult them. I agree that Christians should hold up a better standard of how they treat people, BUT I think society as a whole has gone down hill and people (as a general rule) don't know how to be decent people anymore.
Nathan Bounds
Fri Oct 30 2009 14:05
Responding to "Your name"

I don't read any negativity in Social Worker's post, only realism. As a matter of fact, all the negativity is coming from you. You must be quite a miserable wretch to feel the need to denigrate someone's life's work when you don't even know them or anything about what they have accomplished. Moreover, with the situation Ms. Morales is in, she will be much more successful in defending herself if she's not surrounded by so-called "allies" like yourself who are just using her to project their own self-hatred on someone else.

Social workers make huge differences in the lives of the least fortunate people in our country. They work with extremely sensitive issues that require a calm, collected frame of mind. What Social Worker is saying is that the difference a social worker makes on a daily basis should be more important to them than trying to argue with someone whose mind will not change.

Furthermore, if you are in college, like it or not, you really do need to be thinking about how your actions will look to your future employers. Sorry, but that's life.

P.S. A social worker might be able to help you with your self-esteem and anger management issues, both of which are clearly displayed in your post. Grow up or get help.

thetowercard@yahoo.com
Fri Oct 30 2009 11:42
To the nameless person who hurls insults at "social worker:"

You insult "social worker" because s/he condemns Morales's act of violence when s/he is right to do so! Morales climbed onto that tiny ledge in an attempt to intimidate McGlone. Failing at that, she shoved him from it. That is not the act of a hero. That is not the act of a great activist like MLK or Gandhi. That is the act of a common bully. That is the act of someone afraid of a different point of view.

Why should cowardice and aggression be rewarded?

Praise the people who deserve it, "nameless!" Praise those young men and women who crafted signs of protest, and stood near McGlone and Co. to show that intolerance is unacceptable. Applaud those people who debated with these fundamentalists, using their words to fight antiquated religious dogma!

But please, don't waste your time exalting someone as frightened and vicious as Morales.

Your name
Thu Oct 29 2009 23:37
Social Worker,
I can't get over how you compare Ms. Morales actions as she walks across campus to how she will do in a job in her applicable major. It seems your a little envious of Ms. Morales in your post. Maybe you never got to, "raise your arms to the applause of a rioting crowd." I'm proud to be a fellow student of Ms. Morales, and will remember how she stood up for herself. Hopefully I'll forget you as a washed up know-it- all-social worker- that never made a difference. With that amount of negativity in your post and regarding your job, I recommend, www.monster.com
Your name
Thu Oct 29 2009 16:05
When Christians like that are allowed on our campus what do you expect to happen. Condemnation of sinners only further enrages nonchristians and pushes away people who identify with the Christian faith. How does this not break the rules of seperation of church and state. We are on state property and they were permitted to have a religious bombardment against students that share different faiths.
social worker
Thu Oct 29 2009 13:31
Response to thetowercard:

Thank you for your posting. It is comforting to find a voice of reason in the midst of a sad situation gone awry.

My perspective comes from having graduated from the MTSU Social Work program years ago. I went on to earn my Masters and my licensure as a Clinical Social Worker, and have worked in the profession for over twenty years. I can tell you, Ms. Morales, that if you pursue a profession based on your major, you are going to have to work with scores of people who hold viewpoints that are different from your own. You will encounter the same values that you heard in those preachers over and over again. You will find yourself sitting 1::1 in a room with a rape victim who has encountered someone who questioned how she was dressed. And after that one, you will do the same with dozens if not hundreds more. And in the course of that, no political statements will be made. You won't be able to raise your arms to the applause of a rioting crowd, and it won't be appropriate to smile and tell an officer to carry you. You will fight the effects of people who believe this way one victim at a time -- quietly and confidentially. And if you are good at what you do and base your work on the ethics of our profession, you will do so while respecting everyone's right to believe in any way that we choose, along with their right to free speech -- the same one that you enjoyed during the riot that occurred. Although revolutionary measures in the face of social injustice do occur and have produced change, history speaks for itself in demonstrating that nonviolence produces that change faster and results in changes that are more enduring. I have to agree with thetowercard on this one -- the preachers won.

I hope there are staff in the Social Work program that can help you modulate how you respond to the values and viewpoints that you will encounter in others around you. I am always interested in the training and background of those who will be stepping up to work in our profession. I can tell you that had this occurred after graduation while you were working as a social work professional, you would have been at risk of being fired from your job. If you had incurred charges like this after working hard for many years to secure your licensure, you would have been at risk of having your licensure revoked. This isn't how we go about helping, and it isn't how we work toward positive change. I would strongly recommend that you find yourself an experienced and / or licensed social worker to help you with this. You have a good deal of growing to do before you graduate.

Get A Clue
Thu Oct 29 2009 12:10
I think its best put this way, if someone were up there advocating the Holy Koran and Islam, WONDERFUL! If someone were advocating and extolling the beauty of homosexuality and transgendered individuals, why those are courageous individuals worthy of praise and accolades! Quite simply, in the cradle of liberalism, I would expect people who live their lives in contadiction to a Holy God and nature, to take offense to what they heard, truth hurts! You know whats ironic? Clueless people on this campus acting as if they have a clue about life, (save the trees, baby seals, the rain forest,blah,blah, blah) but abortion is a womans right and crying about intolerance and closed minded individuals and then crying foul when someone exercises their rights in a lawful way. Didn't those preachers get a a 5 hr permit? Thought so! In the end, we see who the unlawful one was.
Sarah
Thu Oct 29 2009 09:21
I am a Christian and feel this was done in extremely poor taste. To incite people's anger is on the slow path to becoming those that blow themselves up and others for their religion. How could anyone think that Christ really wants His word delivered that way? I have never understood this behavior and never will. And if anything, their actions cause people to turn away from Christianity, not towards it. Yes, students on campus are young and impressionable. But this sort of display usually creates anger and rage, not repentance and change.
ls
Thu Oct 29 2009 05:19
One man was wearing a "Trust Jesus" T-shirt. How could anyone trust this "Jesus" when the men spent their entire time attacking and screaming obscenities to the students? What was the purpose of this free speech extravaganza? Why were they allowed on campus to put our students at risk and ultimately, why should this young girl have her life ruined because he was offensive and accosted her (doesn't hate speech) count as an attack? If all of this is legal, we need to change some laws.
bobster
Thu Oct 29 2009 02:39
I thought this was an institution of higher learning that allowed a free interchange of ideas. Again, apparently not if a liberal if is offended. By the way this woman behaved as she was being arrested, it appears she feels assault is her right of free political speech. She should be expelled and the students who enjoyed watching this assault should be addressed as well. So much for higher learning if this mob finds violence to be entertaining. Apparently that crowd needs some diversity training. College is supposed to be a place where diversity and speech it tolerated and promoted. Yet another case of leftist intolerance.
Really!?!
Thu Oct 29 2009 01:47
"idiothater".... please find another college soon! You're making us look bad. It's "ridiculous," you idiot... speaking of which... i guess this mean you hate yourself!
idiothater
Wed Oct 28 2009 20:57
The entire fact that these IDIOTS were GIVEN A PERMIT to protest to OUR STUDENTS and tell us the WE ARE GOING TO HELL, is BULLSHIT!!! I cannot believe it. This BIBLE WARPING CULT has NO RIGHT standing on our campus, protesting to our students. I am super pissed and ready to find GO TO ANOTHER SCHOOL that actually shows RESPECT FOR ITS STUDENTS. I mean I am a christian believer myself, but I also don't shove my beliefs down others throats. REDICULOUS.
thetowercard@yahoo.com
Wed Oct 28 2009 19:02
Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right. - Mahatma Gandhi

I was present during the last hour of the presentation, and I witnessed the altercation. However, despite standing only five to ten feet from McGlone when he fell, I was not situated at an angle to be able to determine whether or not he actually grasped Morales's breasts before he was shoved from the ledge. Honestly, it didn't look like he did.

It seems to me that this whole incident is a prime example of the declining value of free speech in our country. While I disagree quite strongly with what McGlone was preaching, I feel he had the right to say it. Strangely enough, I still feel this, despite being amongst those he targeted for his eventual hay-ride to hell (and reader, just in case you are wondering, you are coming too, sinner). Of course, I also feel the homosexual community had the right to protest the rant, and I commend their brilliant way of doing so. I applaud the crowd too, which showered McGlone with jeers and heckling. While the crowd's methods were a bit childish, they were doing, more or less, what needed to be done, that is, proving to McGlone and crew, that their message of damnation was not appreciated. That is freedom of speech! That is democracy! The will of the people was revealed and McGlone's posse was outnumbered. Their philosophy was shown to be outdated and unwanted. How long could that tired old preacher have kept up his rant with that kind of opposition? Either his permit would have given out or his voice would have.

Morales, for whatever reason, descended to a unnecessarily despicable level. I've read that she is a democratic socialist. How would she feel, I wonder, if a Republican punched her in the teeth the next time she opened her mouth to speak about universal healthcare? How would she feel if a capitalist chucked her off a ledge the next time she mentioned the benefits of a socialistic economic system? I sincerely doubt she would be smiling quite as much as she was after knocking the old preacher around. You see, that is the problem with violence, it dissolves the possibility of discussion and reasoning, and gives power only to those with the stronger arm - not the stronger mind. And in the end, what did Morales accomplish? Assaulting McGlone not only got her arrested: it vindicated that sad old man and all those with him.

So, just in case you're looking for the score of the "game," sports fans, here it is:
Antiquated Relgious Dogma: 1 Freedom of Speech: 0. The home team is losing thanks to an angry social work student and a crowd of people, like me, who stood idly by as this happened. Let's do this thing the classy way next time, folks: no more violence. Please email me if you have any comments.

RV
Wed Oct 28 2009 17:49
Heres some video footage of the event before the arrest...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyPVQBeb-dQ

Just Saying
Wed Oct 28 2009 14:30
Actually "CMH," you're incorrect about God not possessing or showing hate. God's wrath and hatred towards certain groups of people are mentioned several times in the Bible. Did you skip over the part about Sodom and Gomorrah and the Plagues of Egypt? The Christian God is a merciless one. God has it's good days, but it has way more bad days. Jesus, however, was very peaceful. He showed nothing but good will towards everyone. So, in closing, "the protester's interpret the Bible literally" would be a better way to say it. I've read the Bible several times, and I've got to admit that, if you accept the Bible in a literal sense, it's a pretty messed up book.
Chris J
Wed Oct 28 2009 14:25
Poor girl, & poor sorry idiot that got hurt. I am a recent alum from MTSU and this news does not shock me very much. It is a shame that extremists are allowed onto campus to practically shout hate messages. In my 3+ years at MT I saw people like this proclaiming the 'gospel' on a somewhat regular basis, even sporting epithets such as "It's back to God or back to the Jungle" (one of the worst cases I saw). Many of my friends were told they would go to Hell -I was told I would go to Hell. They normally are disrespectful and seem to enjoy shouting matches with students. I imagine they see it as their suffering for the cause of Christ, suffering not for teaching a radical message of love, but suffering for being honest fools with dishonest & selfish agendas. But on the other side there is also the student , arguing sometimes in favor of being anti-whatever, for a similar self indulgent sip from the us-vs them pool of adrenaline. As for the sexual assault charges the outcome of that was horrendous, perhaps the man had never seen or touched breasts before so he had no idea what he was doing? But seriously speaking, there should be some type of follow up and even charges with the man who touched her wrongly. What will you do about this, Syd McPhee?
Concerned
Wed Oct 28 2009 14:16
If anyone has any video of preacher altercation, please email me. tabays@msn.com.
CMH
Wed Oct 28 2009 12:48
Totally agree with Becca here. "Judge not unless you want to be judged" is what I was always taught growing up. Those people out there yesterday were completely misinterpreting what the Bible says. God has no hate, I believe he has disappointment when people choose to follow the wrong path in life, but he is not one to hate. I would think after a few times of seeing that this kind of evangelism doesn't work, these guys would stop. Apparently that's not the case.






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