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“Preaching” extremely offensive

By Ariel Franklyn

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Published: Wednesday, October 28, 2009

Updated: Wednesday, October 28, 2009

 Preacher Riot

photo by Brandon Cloud, staff photographer

John McGlone of PinPoint of PinPoint Evangelism lies on the sidewalk after falling from a concrete ledge.

“If your daughter was raped, would you ask her what she was wearing?”

This became my battle cry Tuesday. Over the course of two-and-a-half hours, I asked this question dozens of times, screaming at the top of my voice, but I never received an answer.

On my way to philosophy class on Tuesday morning, I encountered three “preachers” carrying vinyl picket signs proclaiming the dangers of hellfire for fornicators, homosexuals, drunkards and “immodest women.” I never made it to class.

Only one of the men was preaching at a time, while the other two held a sign and a video camera, respectively. I approached him and inquired as to why his sign targeted immodest women rather than immodest people.

His reply was that the Bible commands women to dress modestly in order to prevent men from lusting after them and that, “If a woman goes around in revealing clothing, she is responsible for the consequences of her actions.” I asked if that referred to rape, to which he said, “It sure does, young lady.”

I felt shocked beyond sadness and fear. I was angry. I was enraged, actually, that this man would dare to come to a campus half-full of women, one in eight of whom will be raped during her time in college and tell us that we could be held responsible for that.

I began chanting over his message of hate the words, “Rape is never a woman’s fault. Women never deserve to be raped.”

A small crowd began to form and he began to engage me again, taunting me in front of the crowd.

“Have you ever been raped young lady?” he asked me.

Everyone watching us stopped talking and just stared at him, unable to believe he had just asked such a personal and offensive question.

I wavered for a second, my heart sped up and I felt obscenely vulnerable, but I looked at the people around me and realized that lying to him would defeat my whole purpose of confronting him in the first place. My voice did not shake when I responded, “Yes, sir. Have you?”

He then informed me that my problem was that I was making his universal violent and misogynist statements personally.

He said that being raped was the reason that I haven’t been able to enter a relationship with God. When I replied that God and I were on fine terms, he called me a liar.

He told me I hated God, that I was, in fact, God’s enemy. He called me a fornicator. He asked me if being raped made it OK that I am a lesbian.

By this point, a large crowd had gathered. His degradation and hate speech only intensified once he had an audience to fuel him.

He told two Muslim men who came to speak to him that they were going to hell. He told a gay man the same thing. He was belligerent and angry, refusing to answer any questions posed to him.

When the crowd began to get hostile, he stopped talking and indicated that his partner was going to preach now. They tag-teamed like this, angering the crowd and taunting students, calling them fornicators, baby murderers and hypocrites. In short, they incited a riot.

Eventually another young woman ended up directly in front of him, pushed too close by the rapidly intensifying mass of students.

This so-called preacher barred his arm across her chest in an attempt to move her away from him. She stood her ground and loudly requested several times that he remove his arm from her breasts.

She was heard to say by the crowd, “You are sexually assaulting me now. Please stop.”

Campus police and Gene Fitch, dean of student life, saw all of this and did nothing.

However, when the same woman, after having her pleas for him to stop touching her ignored, retaliated, they took action. In an attempt to move him off her, she shoved him away. Due to the rain and the precarious location of the impromptu protest, the man fell to the ground.

Fitch stated that “We can’t appear to condone behavior like that on this campus,” and the woman was arrested.

The man who sexually assaulted her and verbally assaulted hundreds of students was escorted off campus by police “for his own safety” and taken to the hospital. He sustained no serious injuries.

I find this repulsive. I feel violated. I feel as though my university and its administration let me down. When a man is permitted to come uninvited and publicly humiliate students, damn them and even put his hands on them without consequence, it sends an alarming message.

It says that we are not safe on this campus. It says that we do not care about the rights of our women. It says that hate speech is more protected than our bodies.

Arresting this young woman for defending herself was inexplicable and coincided beautifully with the preacher’s message that a woman is responsible if she is raped. She should be commended for having the strength and courage to protect her body from an unprovoked assault.

Then again, what was she wearing?

Ariel Franklyn is a sophomore sociology major.

Comments

40 comments
Former MTSU Student
Sat Nov 14 2009 07:05
I read this and laughed. I used to attend MTSU, but the author of this trash is the reason why major universities are nothing more than jokes. "Hate crime!" are you serious? If someone stepped at me in a manner which I found threatening, I would use my arms to brush them off. I would not remove my arm in order to protect myself from her on going threats to me and my space. I highly doubt that this guy meant to make contact with this woman's breasts. Should she have been arrested for assault, No I don't believe so. This story, the election of president, and numerous other examples are proof of what I've believed for years. We lack balls. We are such a wimpy winy generation. The first generation built a country, succeeding generations blazed trails and built cities and roads. Our great grand parents built the Model T, and freed the Jews and defeated the nazis. What do we do? I can't believe people have so much time on their hands to be offended and respond to stories like this on websites (HAHA thats me). Lets assume that this story is legit and not one thing she said was manipulated. The story should have read like this. "I was walking through the quad today and there were three men making statements about women who are raped and how they are to blame because of their own lack of morality. I was shocked to hear such inflammatory statements, especially from men who claim to be followers of Christ. As a victim of rape myself, it bothered me to hear people think like this. However, pressed for time, and full of confidence in who I am, knowing that I don't need the approval of anyone to be myself, I simply smiled and walked away so that I could better myself through education, and not allow this ignorance to affect my day." Nope, typical of the "victim generation" she got offended, and then gave legitimacy to these guys by starting her own crusade against them. How do we have so much free time to be upset about everything. I'm a christian, and I don't believe that a woman being raped is her fault. Are there studies that show that women who dress more explicit are more likely to be targeted for raped? Yes. Does that in anyway justify the act of rape on these women. NO. I think the argument is, modesty is a key virtue. But as a Christian, do I get so angry that I counter protest some artist who pisses in a mason jar with a cross in it in the name of art? No, because I'm to busy living my life to worry about what other people say and do. True freedom is. Its having the right to say what you want, when you want. Its also, hearing things that you don't agree with, and walking away confident in your own self without letting it affect your day. Furthermore, The two words I hear right now, more than any, especially in the wake of this Fort Hood Shooting. Tolerance and diversity. I for on one call a spade a spade and a duck a duck. And a Muslim with SoA on his business card, yelling Alah as he kills 13 people on a United States Army base is simply this. A radical Islamic terrorist. (Note liberal college kids, I did put radical. I realize that not all Muslims are terrorists.) However, if you watch the liberal media, they are quick to point out that they worry about how this will effect tolerance and diversity. We even have a president unwilling to call this exactly what it is. An Act of terrorism. (Obama, I think your a moron, a socialist that feels guilt and anger about living in the most powerful nation on earth. But, while this attack took place on your watch, I don't blame you for it happening. I don't blame you for the economy having sucked. I blame you for your stupid reactions to them. The Fort Hood Shooting, was clearly the fault of the man who did it, and the people who knew what an idiot this guy was, but said and did nothing.)One thing I notice, you liberals commonly forget that true diversity and tolerance means Christian conservatives as well. Even if they are truly misguided in their views. Tolerance doesn't mean you agree, it simply means you recognize their constitutional rights to say what they want. The same right you have. Sympathy on the other hand, is not something I give out to a girl who "reacts stupidly" (Sounds like Obama prejudging Yale Police) to something she disagrees with. Everyone, of every race, religion, creed, height, weight, bust size, age, penis length, grade point average, and hair style need to go outside and forget about Global warming, racism, health care, intolerance, the sea otter, big oil, wal mart, Jimmy Carter, Iran, Fox News, MSNBC, your math test, that annoying guy that calls you, and why Sally is wearing that stupid dress, and enjoy the day. Just for one day, for the love of god, pretend like you aren't offended by everything you hear, stop pretending like you alone are fighting the battle against intolerance and injustice and enjoy your self. You'll live longer and be happier.
K Johnson
Thu Nov 5 2009 15:49
The unfortunate part was these "preachers" got what they wanted--attention. Engaging them in a confrontential manner excited them more and gave them more fuel for their message. Even though it is hard to do, sometimes it is better to ignore, walk away and don't give them what they want--an audience. If there needed to be a counter message, then the appropriate thing would have been to go into the bookstore, purchase some poster board and markers, make your signs and stand across the sidewalk and mount your own level "freedom of speech" campaign, and to effectively ignore any means they had in trying to engage you in a battle. The moral of the story is when you get drug in to the pig sty with the pigs and choose to roll around with them, you are going to come out dirty and smelling like a pig too. Your advantage to the preachers is that you are educating yourselves and becoming better individuals. Stay above the fold MTSU students.
Evan Barker, Opinions Editor
Thu Nov 5 2009 13:23
To " what about MY freedom of speech?"
We generally approve all comments. However, we have been buried in recent days. If you email me directly at slopinio@mtsu.edu with the content of your comments, I will go look for them. If they were not posted, it was likely an oversight. Sidelines does not selectively approve the comments based on content.
what about MY freedom of speech?
Thu Nov 5 2009 02:36
why is sidelines not including certain comments? i posted 2 comments on this story recently and neither showed up. i didn't say anything that would not typically be allowed. i spoke poorly of the author, but not with cussing or attacking in any way. it was completely respectful.

way to censor people, sidelines.

Your name
Tue Nov 3 2009 09:01
Michaela,

There was NO hate crime. Your accounts of the story are false, and those people have just as much constitutional right to speak as you did to yell in their faces. You are not a victim, and you need to stop actling like you are an innocent bystander. Your actions have made the school look bad, NOT those preachers. You are the student. You are the one who should have known better than to react the way you did. You are a grown adult. Act like it.

You chose to put yourself in this position, and you need to take responsbility for YOUR actions. Stop playing the "victim" card. It really is annoying. No one should be forced to agree with your views. We all have our own beliefs. Just because they disagree with you does NOT make them guilty of a hate crime. If anything, you are the one who verbally and physically assaulted a man because of his religious beliefs. By your definition, you are the true "criminal". Get over yourself. Go to your classes, get your education, and stop looking for unnecessary attention. You will not earn respect for acting immaturely toward those that you do no like.

I am not defending those preachers' actions. But, I will defend their right to speak. Your actions only prove that you'd rather censor someone for their beliefs than respect their constitutional rights. Shame on you.

Michaela Morales
Tue Nov 3 2009 03:52
I my self believe it was one of most immoral ways of demonstrating any true knowledge of someone's belief system. Not only did many other students not make it to their classes, that they cannot afford to miss. I my self fell victim to the hatred that was allowed by Dean Finch, to be demonstrated by a radicalist group from kentucky.
It was first stated that they were to distribute literature about christianity and their organization, it is evident that they merely took the alloted time to bash any bystander.

I truly am empathetic with those individuals who also fell victim to the hate crime that was committed on Oct. 27, 2009. (which by the way is against state and federal law) However, this kind of thing is allowed in public and private universities throughout this country, and others.
In a post-911, Virginia Tech tragedy, and many others , who is to protect and secure the constituional rights of students througout the nation????????????

and educational goals of all socioeconomical groups and religious preferences. Not just hypocritical evangelists...

AtomicFlash
Sun Nov 1 2009 10:59
I'm an agnostic, so I'm not too familiar with the bible or its ways, but I'm sure that these so-called priests are just complete idiots. It's 2009, and this is happening...smh.
ahha!
Sun Nov 1 2009 00:11
So Kevin, can I conclude from your statements that you are a homosexual?
mtsu student
Sat Oct 31 2009 16:20
the way these men presented themselves and Christ's message was sad to say the least. Christ says to share the truth in love. i wasn't there, i don't know whether it was the man or the woman that caused the incident. One question really seamed to start it all, when people asked why God would allow a woman to be raped. These men didn't respond right. the point isn't what a woman is wearing, the point is that the world is fallen. God doesn't reach down from heaven and physically stop a man from raping a woman, (though i'm not saying it isn't Him when somehow the act is stopped). I am so sorry for those women who have been victims! it is a terrible side of what this sinful world has become. God has made a better place for those who repent from their imperfect and sinful lives and believe that Christ died for their sins and rose above death on the third day.

I hope these men will also realize they need to follow Christ's example and share the truth in love.

Honest Bystander
Sat Oct 31 2009 13:33
Looks like the Pinpoint "Preachers" posted a video of their "preaching". Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbizOib8UDo

AND it looks like this video proves YOU to be a liar Ariel...

US SOLDIER IN IRAQ.
Sat Oct 31 2009 02:10
My opinion on this whole thing is that this is the stupidist form of "free speech" I have ever encountered. I f these people are so "religious" and upholding the "truths" in which they believe, then why are they forcing people to listen to them, and telling people that they are all going to hell, because they were raped, or because they are homosexual. If that is true then I am also guessing that murder is against the law of God, and the way these people were talking that war is a form of murder as well. So these guys are telling me as an American Soldier that I am going to be going to hell, just for defending the freedom that I so enjoy. Does that make any sense at all? No, it does not. If that was the case then I am guessing that Israel, GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE, are going to hell too. Kind of contradictory huh? They have been in the most wars and battles of any country in the world.
And yet another point to make. Because young females wear skirts or "tighter" jeans, does not always make them a whore or slut. Not everyone who gets raped, actually NO ONE who gets raped is at fault. Why is that? BECAUSE IT IS RAPE YOU RETARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rape is the act of FORCING yourself onto someone to have sex with them that DOES NOT WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU. So it is in no means the young girls fault for that to happen. And if that was the case with, " what was she wearing" I can garauntee you that not everyone who has been raped in college was a " whore ", or was wearing something promisicuous ( for those idiots out there that means, scantily clad, or revealing), how do i know this, because my ex was raped in front of me while I was the one being held down and forced to watch it when I was in high school. My ex was not a whore or someone who "ran around with lots of other guys." These sidewalk preachers need to get there shit together before they start walking around preaching to others about right and wrong.
LT
Sat Oct 31 2009 00:25
Mature people are not easily offended. If you don't like what you see or hear on the tv or radio, you change the channel or station. If you don't like what someone's saying on a corner, avoid it or walk past it. As long as we continue to play, "You wronged me! That makes me more righteous than you!", nobody wins. Everyone gets agitated, or worse trying to make themselves out to be right. It's true that there are laws about hate speech. It would be helpful to understand those laws before accusing someone. A wise person once said, "Get over it!"
Vince
Fri Oct 30 2009 18:56
The people that come to our campus should conduct themselves in a civilized manner. A civilized manner means treating people with respect, not insulting and condemning them in accordance with whatever beliefs and stereotypes they may agree with. If they don't like what they view us as, then they should not come to campus. I was not there, but I can say that if this is true, then the woman should NOT have been arrested, the men that were preaching should have been arrested.
mad mom
Fri Oct 30 2009 14:24
I have no problem with the pinhead evangelism on campus. they are excellent example of why you should not marry your cousin. my problem if the President of the college thought that is was such a great idea he should stood right there with them and listen for 5 hours of their verbal assault. where was campus security why did they let this get out of hand?
Chris
Fri Oct 30 2009 14:00
I think the people who are making this a Liberal/Conservative issue are viewing it wrong. The issue comes down to people not wanting to be harassed on their own campus for whatever reason. And having people from a Christian church, or a Mosque, or even a political figure who only wants to spread hate, fear, and separation; come onto our campus, and call our fellow students names is unwelcome and unnecessary discourse in our school. I just don't get how people can defend this "Preacher" and call this a liberal/conservative issue, when it is clearly an issue of people not wanting to be harassed for any reason on campus.

If most of you are like me, you have a lot more important things like projects, papers, and tests to worry about without some jerk coming and telling you your unholy crap.

thetowercard@yahoo.com
Fri Oct 30 2009 10:48
Mostly To Jase Short (but I hope Puddintane, Bob's Mom, and all the others who praise Morales for her assault will read this):

I will agree with Jase to a point. There is a very drastic and notable difference between free speech and hate speech. Jase is correct that hate speech will typically incite violence (or genocide). However, could he or someone else please explain to me, what McGlone and Pinpoint Ministries said to incite violence or genocide? They merely voiced a tired (and slightly humorous) philosophy that their relationship with a mythical deity was better than our relationship with this deity and that if our relationship with said deity didn't start to mirror their's soon, an imaginary part of our beings, that supposedly exists forever, will go to a place of torment rather than pleasure after our physical deaths.

Depressing? Maybe. Silly? Probably. The fact remains that those words were not inciting violence. None of these men mentioned that homosexuals, immodest women, blasphemers, fornicators or any of the rest of my favorite kinds of people should be beaten or killed! They merely stated that we sinners should begin a relationship with their god before we die, or else our "afterlife" will be less than fun. These comments were of a religious nature and were not violent, and thus would have been protected in most or all of those "civilized" nations Jase mentioned. For example, I have lived in Canada: one of those industrialized countries, with universal healthcare and multiple parties, that he wrote about. He is correct about their policies on hate speech. It is controlled a little more seriously there. However, even in Canada, exceptions are made under hate speech laws for religion. McGlone and Co. were operating well within their rights in our country and would have been doing so in most, or all of those idealized nations also.

Jase and so many others write about Pinpoint Ministries as though they were a group of murdering anarchists, instead of a few, sad, poorly educated Christians! It is true, their point of view is archaic and ignorant, but it is their right to hold to that archaic and ignorant point of view. Who are we to assault them for having it?

Finally, everyone seems to be forgetting that it wasn't the fundamentalist christian with his depressing spiritual outlook that got violent in the first place! A democratic socialist first tried to intimdate the fundamentalist christian, then, when that didn't work, shoved him off a ledge. Morales was a coward looking for attention- pure and simple. Shoving an old man off a ledge didn't help the homosexual community or rape victims. All it did was land her in jail and solidify the position of the fundamentalists within their own minds. I've written this already and I'll write it again: I truly admire those who protested McGlone and Co. with non-violence. I'll even give the slightest nod of respect to the hecklers. Morales was a bully though, not a hero. Why should she receive any respect?

Kevin Barbieux
Thu Oct 29 2009 22:29
The right to free speech was given to the citizens of this country in order to insure fair political discourse. It was not intended as means by which to insult people for their particular lifestyles.
Kevin Barbieux
Thu Oct 29 2009 22:28
The right to free speech was given to the citizens of this country in order to insure fair political discourse. It was not intended as means by which to insult people for their particular lifestyles.
Kevin
Thu Oct 29 2009 22:11
Free speech was created as a means for furthering fair political debate, not for hurling insults at people for their personal lifestyles.
Drew
Thu Oct 29 2009 20:52
Personal Views - Dead Man Walking is spot on!!

Politically - Freedom of Speech!! "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." -Voltaire Don't get me wrong, I, a devout conservative Christian, find what he said offensive and wrong and a slam against my beliefs. But to say that he should not be allowed on campus because you disagree with him (along with the overwhelming majority of campus) unconstitutional. It is our right as Americans to express our opinions.







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